Counting the days…

I went out for a couple of drinks last night with George and Roisin to the Black Boy. For those not in the know, it’s a great pub in Winchester, with a great atmosphere and an interesting mix of people.

However, getting up this morning I could smell the smoke in my clothes from the other side of the room. Yuk.

It’s a controversial issue I know, and it’ll probably lessen the atmosphere in the Black Boy, but I’m looking forward to July 1st 2007 when I won’t smell of smoke after coming out of a pub.

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4 Responses to “Counting the days…”


  1. 1 Andrew Ferrier December 4, 2006 at 1:02 pm

    If the Black Boy wanted to go smoke-free, it could of course already do so. So presumably the owners think I’d be a bad move. Incidentally, one of Winchester’s previously excellent pubs, The Green Man, was non-smoking and has now switched back to allowing it (along with a stupid big screen showing stupid football and a drop in the quality of food). Maybe outlawing smoking in pubs risks not giving pub-goers what they want.

    NB: I am not a smoker. I am, however, a liberal (small L).

  2. 2 davidillsley December 4, 2006 at 1:10 pm

    Indeed. I’m sure it would be bad for business, but what’s good for business isn’t necessarily good for society. I too consider myself to be a liberal but on the balance I think the impact on public health outweighs the civil liberties issue. You can continue to do what you want in places that don’t harm others so I don’t see it as being overbearingly restrictive.

  3. 3 Andrew Ferrier December 4, 2006 at 2:21 pm

    Hmm, well, in this case, aren’t the two fairly closely linked? If people want smoke-free pubs, those pubs will succeed in the marketplace (an example being the The Old Vine in Winchester, which I now frequent out of preference, and which is normally very popular). I don’t really see a need to victimise those who choose to smoke. Outlawing it seems a pretty harsh solution, even from a nanny state. There are other, gentler, solutions, such as taxing smoking pubs more – which I wouldn’t approve of either, but might achieve the objective you’re looking for without criminalising those who aren’t really doing anything immoral.

    I should have explained more clearly – I’m liberal in the old-fashioned sense, not in the ‘Liberal Democrat’ sense. These days, this is normally called libertarian. Telling pub owners what to do with their property isn’t very liberal :)

  4. 4 nick January 10, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    maybe pubs should be banned on the grounds that drinking alcohol is bad for one’s health and soceity. then everyone can stay at home and sing around the piano


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